Insights From Leading Edge

IFTLE 212 A Little More Patience Required for 2.5/3D

By Dr. Phil Garrou, Contributing Editor

There is an old proverb that states “All things Come to Those Who Wait.” It is exemplified by the French cartoon (below) showing a cat patiently waiting for a mouse to exit his hole in the wall. I personally am not the waiting type wanting to get things done ASAP but most civilizations look at patience as a virtue.

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We’ve discussed the leading edge before. The leading edge is where the money is made. So while you don’t want to be too early, you certainly don’t want to sit back and wait to see if something is going to happen and let others drain all the profit from that early period of introduction.

Now having said that, let me counter by saying that “All things don’t come to those who wait”. I waited for thin film  MCMs to take off in the 90’s and early 2000’s and they never did.  A lot of us gambled and in that case – lost. Life is a gamble !

TSV technology and 2.5/3D has had its own  dichotomy. We couldn’t sit back and allow others to get there first so we all anteed up our time and money without any assurance that there is big money to be made on this technology. Like the cat, we have been waiting (some more patiently than others) for 2.5/3D to enter HVM when in fact there has been no assurance that the mouse wasn’t going to exit from another wall (i.e another technological solution as happened in thin film MCMs).

Anyone who understood what TSV technology could bring to the party, knew that HVM and actually new product design itself could not expand until foundry technology was available (since TSV were/are clearly going in during chip fabrication) and memory stacks were available, since foundries don’t make DRAM. Of course it all has to be at the right price, but if its not even available, what matters the price?

In terms of foundries TSMC [see: IFTLE 122, “TSMC officially ready for 2.5D….”, ] was the first to announce and GlobalFoundries is not far behind [see; IFTLE 142,  “GlobalFoundries 2.5 / 3D at 20nm…” or IFTLE 164, “Semicon Taiwan contd: GlobalFoundries Manocha Interview”  ] so those at the leading edge can now design in 2.5D. But what about memory ??

While UMC [see: IFTLE 135, “UMC / SCP Memory on Logic…” and a few others have made noise about entering the 3D market space they appear to be significantly further behind.

The status of memory

Memory, as IFTLE has noted several times, has been slower coming.

The DRAM industry has been undergoing significant consolidation in the last few decades. The recent acquisition of Elpida by Micron has left 3 major players in the DRAM business as shown below.

DRAM Mkt Share of the Big 3 [Source: Gartner 2014]

DRAM Mkt Share of the Big 3 [Source: Gartner 2014]

Moving forward the main roadmaps for DRAM suppliers all address: (1) reduce power consumption, (2) satisfy bandwidth requirements and (3) satisfy density requirements , all while maintaining low cost.

With DDR architecture running into a brick wall the memory suppliers have been focusing on new architectures that will deliver lower power, higher bandwith memory solutions.  These include wide IO-2, HBM (high bandwidth memory) and HMC (hybrid memory cube).

Definition, standardization and scale up of these memory technologies has simply taken longer than any of us would have liked, but these are the new architectures what will take advantage of TSV stacking technology.

TSMC has recently compared the different memory architectures relative to DDR and one another  in terms of bandwidth vs power and price.

Memory Architectures vs bandwidth, power and price. [TSMC]

Memory Architectures vs bandwidth, power and price. [TSMC]

I compare the technologies below.


Memory Std

Bandwidth        (GBps)




Wide IO 2



JESD 229-2

High end smart phones




HMC consortium

High end servers, networking, graphics


128 (gen 1) 256 (gen 2)



High end graphics, networking and HPC

Comparison of New Memory Architectures

As we head into the fall of 2014 the last probably most important of the big 3 memory suppliers, Samsung,  has now announced production of TSV based memory stacks [see: IFTLE 209, “Samsung announces TSV based DDR4 ….” ].

So we are about to have HBM for graphics modules, wide IO-2 for mobile products and HMC for HPC and high end servers. Now there can be no more excuses.

Within the next 18 months, if we do not see product introductions announced,  2.5/3D will begin to fade away until it is only remembered as another one of the bad bets we made attempting to stay on the leading edge…

For all the latest on 2.5/3DIC and advanced packaging, stay linked to IFTLE…


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One thought on “IFTLE 212 A Little More Patience Required for 2.5/3D

  1. Dev Gupta

    Samsung could turn out to be the first to introduce Wide I/O in Smart Phones as they are vertically integrated and can absorb the cost of low yield to regain market share / get bragging rights, If indeed they do so then soon there will be a mad scramble by competitors, e,g a new and very large customer of TSMC. Of course the more intelligent players could opt for easier non-TSV technologies that deliver the performance of WIde I/O 1 or 2 at lower cost


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